Issues by Alex

Issues by Alex

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    December 2004

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Study of SSOA, Sananda and Associates, Responses, Obsolete Articles

In December 2004 I received an email from Alex. He wrote about certain matters that he noticed in the SSOA-material. Below you can find his findings and my responses. His words are in italic and mine are not.


Hi Alex,

Thanks for writing. I have read your email a few weeks ago and I have been thinking about some of the things you write.

I especially like to work with people who are not too much into the 'love-and-light-terminology' and who are not deadly sceptic. That is, I prefer to work with people who are open-minded but who want to see some proof somewhere.

I see that you have taken some time to read a bit of the SSOA-material. I have added some comments in between your words.

Greetings Friend, the god/goddess in me honours the god/goddess in you (namaste)

A friend of mine has been working with the SOAS material for several years now and I am now also on the badwagon, although more on an intellectaul/investigative level.

That's nice. I try to investigate by experimenting with the ascension process. What do you think about experimenting with the ascension process yourself?

And so I would reallylike to thank you for the way you make the wealth of material more interconnected [although I have heard that each transmission is menat to be read in the order published so taht you build up some sort of ascending momentum]

Yes, you're welcome. I try to present the various topics in the order that they are published, so there is still something left of that principle. The oldest ones are now starting in ascension transmissions 2; see Obsolete to read more about what happened to transmissions 1. You added links to transmission-I-articles on the internet. I decided to agree with Mila and Oa and that's why I have removed the links to those articles, because they are said to be distorted. I don't want to contribute to any further distortion.

Karen/mila details ownership signatures of various false red and white gods, but they do not include what they admitted were some of tehir orgional guides back in 1998 such as Lord Averil/Sai Baba.

Yes, these were the old articles which have been recently deleted (see the link above). She also channeled Sananda (if I may believe your link) and she is said to have been an 'aspect of Lord Kuthumi'. Well, that seemed to have distortions from her earlier period, when her tuning apparatus wasn't as fine-tuned as later on in her development. Sananda and I guess Kuthumi are on the list.

I am interested to know why "Lord Metatron" (a very grand title, i think) is similarly left of this list of ownersxhip signatures and indeed not mentioned anywhere agin to my knowledge (not exactly hiow one should treat a Lord), or might it be taht this one time Enoch is regarded as a lesser version of yahweh and so covered by that ownership signature.

I've done a search on the material on Metatron and I only found him in the obsolete articles, where 'Lord' Metatron is mentioned, together with 'Lord' Sananda and 'Lord' Averil as parts of some 'cosmic hierarchy' in an article from 1999. Yes, when you read the later material, I think it makes sense that this old material hampers the present ascension process. Kryon (of magnetic service) isn't mentioned either.

At various times, karren or mila, channels differnt sources. I like the fact taht she recognises that nothing is perfect, but how does she select what is helpful and what is misleading and how does she then know when to discontinue channelling Athena or the Order of Rize for example, for if we assume that these beings are inherently imperfect we must remember that karren is also imperfect. Even if she has pulled into this reality a dream/memory of being a teacher of ascension/lemurian high priestess, she will be the first to admit taht she has been used before against the interests of our species, planet and entire creation. Her muscle testing tehcniques/pendulum etc are good in theory, but they diid not stop her working with the now rejected sanander for a long time: I refer you to the erlier artcile [Attaining a Fifth Dimensional Awareness ...]

Yes, that's right. That's why you need to check if the material 'resonates' with you, or not. I can see the development from 'lower' entities to entities with a higher vibration. When I compare the earlier articles with the later ones I notice a difference, which - at least to me - looks like a growth in understanding. That's what I like about the Spiritual School of Ascension: you can all ultimately try to test it yourself, by trying to ascend as far as your genes allow you to ascend. When things are actually changing in your biology and the way you approach life, than the material starts to make more sense. If you look at the delay-article (see http://home.tiscali.nl/gibbon/delay.htm) you can read more about the idea that the channelings in the nineties might have been less trustworthy than today. However, many of the 'lower vibratory entities' can still be channeled, so there is still a lot of distortion to this day.

The Earth's marias, what exactly do you undertsnad about them, similarly the tao dircted guardians recently cast to aid with the soul infusion of formless oversoul. I only ask as we are being encouraged to invoke things taht we kniow so very little about, except for the fact taht someone who has been wrong before is asking us to just trust her. Or do you have direct experience of being able to access the various recrds of human history and so on from which she derives so much authouirty. Or instead do you have no direct exoerience, but instead resonate witht he message of someone who clearly knows what buttons to push to get people to buy-in to her conception of reality. In saying this I am not undermining nor demeaning 'her version' as we both agree taht it is the best yet. But there is aklways room for imporvement

Yes, I can understand your hesitations. All I can say is that I have had very interesting experiences as a result of the 'ascension experiment' I'm working on. Perhaps she is leading us to a big pit, but perhaps not. I can't give you any proof of the rightfulness of her approach. I'm not asking you to become a believer either. I'm thinking about the possibility of introducing other terminology that might make more people feel better about the possibility of ascending. I haven't figured it all out, but perhaps an intention like: "I would like to activate my genetic clean-up program" would sound better to some. If you trust the power of intentions you could always use the intention not to be harmed by any entities that block the ascension process, or intentions like that.

Lots of the arcangels are on the ownership list and so when karren speaks of the angels weaving this or that or aiding one in this or that, which angels does she belive are doing this?

As far as I understand these angels, they are not archangels, but more some kind of 'genetic transcriber' angels, who translate creative information from dragon souls (or other creative source) into the etheric genetics, and then this information steps down into physicality. I don't know what to think about the marias.

I do sympathise with Tehemias' money concerns, as surely it is better that their material is fully available to all, and taht no one should be excluded due to lack of money. Especially in the context of people who talk and teach about manifestation and the fact taht they have to be careful what they intend as it will manifest immediately for them. Perhaps tehy should give those of us who have not transscended the succcess filure polarity and are in debt and without any cash a buit of help as surely the balance of giving and receving will exist.

About the money issue, see my response to Tehemias. There is an awful lot of material freely available to everyone. You don't have many sites that offer so much information for free.

Somewhereon the site I came acrioss the admission taht this site is not the best for tose with tibetan/mogolian lineages as none of their assoicates come from this background - any thoughts

I don't exactly what you refer to, but I guess they don't have all the information from all lineages, so a number of people who do have these missing lineages would be very useful to the human and global ascension process.

Looking att he pictures of the website of people who are part of the shcool, I don't see much evidence of people becoming more dark skinned in any way, it seems like a lot of pale faces!

Haha. Everyone can come to the conclave. I don't know how many segments you need to have activated in order for the skin to become darker.

Thank you

blessings of ascending community and truth

Thank you for writing!

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